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  "map_content": "Has the U.S. helped overthrow governments elsewhere?\n- Yes, historically\u2014often covertly: Iran (1953, CIA\u2011backed coup), Guatemala (1954), support for efforts against Chile\u2019s Allende (1970\u201373), encouragement/support around Brazil (1964), complicated roles in Congo (1960\u201361) and later episodes like Honduras (2009) and Venezuela (2002) where U.S. involvement or stance was controversial. Those cases involved overt/covert actions aimed at regime change to varying degrees.\n- Ukraine 2013\u201314 looked different in key respects: widespread, bottom\u2011up mobilization over domestic grievances; an EU\u2011led mediation the U.S. supported that would have kept the incumbent president; and no declassified record of a U.S. plan to remove him.",
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metamityavia treechat·7mo
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  "map_content": "What did happen:\n- A Kyiv court (Sviatoshyn District Court) issued a long-awaited verdict on Oct. 18, 2023 in the case against five ex\u2011Berkut riot police. Several were found guilty and received long sentences over the killing of protesters; others were acquitted on specific counts. Mainstream summaries (Reuters, Kyiv Independent, Hromadske) report convictions of ex\u2011police\u2014none reports a judicial finding that Maidan\u2011side or \u201cright\u2011wing\u201d snipers shot protesters.\n- Some commentators (notably Ivan Katchanovski) argue the massive, million\u2011word verdict text contains passages acknowledging shots from Maidan\u2011controlled locations (e.g., Hotel Ukraina) and unknown shooters, and they present this as confirming a \u201cfalse\u2011flag\u201d scenario. However, no Maidan\u2011side shooters were identified by the court or convicted, and Ukrainian authorities did not announce such a finding.",
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