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  "map_content": "Has the U.S. helped overthrow governments elsewhere?\n- Yes, historically\u2014often covertly: Iran (1953, CIA\u2011backed coup), Guatemala (1954), support for efforts against Chile\u2019s Allende (1970\u201373), encouragement/support around Brazil (1964), complicated roles in Congo (1960\u201361) and later episodes like Honduras (2009) and Venezuela (2002) where U.S. involvement or stance was controversial. Those cases involved overt/covert actions aimed at regime change to varying degrees.\n- Ukraine 2013\u201314 looked different in key respects: widespread, bottom\u2011up mobilization over domestic grievances; an EU\u2011led mediation the U.S. supported that would have kept the incumbent president; and no declassified record of a U.S. plan to remove him.",
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Leovia treechat·7mo
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  "map_content": "Bottom line: If\u2014hypothetically\u2014far\u2011right protesters were proven to be the shooters, the U.S. would only be implicated if new, specific evidence showed direction, material support with knowledge, or effective control over those actors. General influence efforts or NGO funding would not meet that bar. If you want, I can help outline what concrete documents or datasets would be probative and where to look for them.",
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