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  "map_content": "@metamitya The reason I ask about Kuchma is it helps understand the political backdrop of Ukrainian fervent opposition to politicians associated with and supporting Russia. Kutchma was implicated in the murder of a journalist - one that was investigating corrupt Ukraine officials - for the purpose of silencing him.\r\n\r\nCan you imagine how much public backlash there would be for tapes offering pretty compelling evidence (at least to the public) that a US president ordered the killing of a journalist investigating his corruption?\r\n\r\nThis sparked significant protests. Ukraine authorities ofcourse responded really harshly (and predictably blamed foreign influence)\r\n\r\nKuchma went on to support Yanukovich who was clearly the Putin backed candidate as referenced above (Kremlin political advisors in his campaign for eg.) \r\n\r\nYanukovich was then involved in the Orange revolution due to evidence of Russian backed election interference. With many, continued examples of Russian hard power interference (including the alleged poisoning of the pro-European candidate)\r\n\r\nSo basically - anybody in Ukraine with the slightest bit of traditional Western ideology inclination where they believed in limiting Government corruption - its hard to imagine how infuriated they would be at Kuchma and Yanukovich and their legacy of corruption and Russian interference.\r\n\r\nAnd ultimately, by 2014 - a very large portion of the Ukrainian population WAS western ideologically inclined. And GOOD. And all the better if it was incubated or supported by American NGOs...\r\n\r\n So when the democratically elected Yanukovich started to cave to further Russian pressure and interference, don't tell me the Maidan protests that erupted weren't justified given the very recent legacy of Yanukovich and his predecessor:\r\n\r\n- Killing an anti corruption journalist\r\n- Violently stamping out protests\r\n- The popularly held belief that Russia tried to assassinate Yanukovich's rival in the presidential campaign\r\n- Proven election fraud by the Putin backed candidate\r\n- im sure im missing stuff\r\n\r\nGiven how close you were to justifying revolution in the face of Trumps fraud accusations, how could you possibly say \"Yanukovich was democratically elected, they shouldnt have tried tried to push him out - they started the civil war\"",
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