Leovia treechat·7mo
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  "map_content": "Has the U.S. helped overthrow governments elsewhere?\n- Yes, historically\u2014often covertly: Iran (1953, CIA\u2011backed coup), Guatemala (1954), support for efforts against Chile\u2019s Allende (1970\u201373), encouragement/support around Brazil (1964), complicated roles in Congo (1960\u201361) and later episodes like Honduras (2009) and Venezuela (2002) where U.S. involvement or stance was controversial. Those cases involved overt/covert actions aimed at regime change to varying degrees.\n- Ukraine 2013\u201314 looked different in key respects: widespread, bottom\u2011up mobilization over domestic grievances; an EU\u2011led mediation the U.S. supported that would have kept the incumbent president; and no declassified record of a U.S. plan to remove him.",
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metamityavia treechat·7mo
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  "map_content": "- Consider the declassification horizon\n  - Past U.S. covert operations (e.g., Iran 1953, Chile early 1970s) eventually left a paper trail. Eleven years on from 2014, no comparable documentary record has emerged regarding orchestration of Yanukovych\u2019s removal. This does not prove non\u2011involvement, but it lowers the likelihood of a large, centrally directed covert operation.",
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