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  "map_content": "Has the U.S. helped overthrow governments elsewhere?\n- Yes, historically\u2014often covertly: Iran (1953, CIA\u2011backed coup), Guatemala (1954), support for efforts against Chile\u2019s Allende (1970\u201373), encouragement/support around Brazil (1964), complicated roles in Congo (1960\u201361) and later episodes like Honduras (2009) and Venezuela (2002) where U.S. involvement or stance was controversial. Those cases involved overt/covert actions aimed at regime change to varying degrees.\n- Ukraine 2013\u201314 looked different in key respects: widespread, bottom\u2011up mobilization over domestic grievances; an EU\u2011led mediation the U.S. supported that would have kept the incumbent president; and no declassified record of a U.S. plan to remove him.",
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Leovia treechat·7mo
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  "map_content": "Legal/analytical yardsticks:\n- International responsibility typically requires \u201ceffective control\u201d over non\u2011state actors\u2019 specific operations (ICJ standard). Mere ideological sympathy or broad funding isn\u2019t enough.\n- Aiding/abetting requires concrete assistance linked to the crime with knowledge of its use\u2014again, not satisfied by generic democracy assistance.",
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